(Please note: This is the long version of my introduction to CLL leukemia. For more pointed (and short) articles about nutrition, supplements, lifestyles, causes, and so forth, click on the Categories on the right side of the blog page. )
My Story. In 2001, I was forty-six years old, the mother of two college-age sons, celebrating my 25th anniversary with a man I still loved very much, and I was at a good place in my career. It had been a long time since I’d gone to the doctor, so I asked around and found a female M.D. not too far from home and went in for a check-up and a CBC (complete blood screen).
The answering machine. When there was a message from the doc on my answering machine a few days later, I was uncharacteristically unworried. Silly me. I was pretty certain she was calling to tell me that my cholesterol was high and it was time for a statin drug. I had no interest in statin drugs. Still don’t. I think they’re nothing more than a poisonous profit center for Big Pharma, who is constantly trying to find common “abnormalities” that they can “treat” and therefore make billions. So I actually waited a day.
The message. But it wasn’t about the cholesterol, even though it was on the high side. It was about my white count. I had too many white blood cells, and she wanted me to come in again and get tested the following week to see if it was a passing infection, or if it was still high. I didn’t freak out. People get infections.  I was kind of annoyed, actually, at having to return to the doctor’s office again so soon. I have a real problem with paper dresses and the smell of alcohol. Not to mention sitting still while a stranger touches you, and then another stranger pokes you with a needle. Not my thing. I was expecting a five-year reprieve. Silly me.
Back to the lab. So I took my sweet time and went in the next week with a chip on my shoulder, rather than having the proper amount of worry. I gave an arm to the technician and turned the other way. I don’t like seeing anyone’s blood, especially my own. I did my ironic thank you to the technician who’d just inflicted minor pain on my inner elbow, packed myself up and went home.
Time to worry. As the days passed, I started to worry. Finally. When it was too late. I called the office, but the doctor never returned my call, even though the receptionist told me that the results were in. I fretted and waited another day. But no call.
Calling the doctor. The next morning, I called again, and insisted on talking to my doctor, who still didn’t have the cohones to call back.  I called later in the early afternoon, and said that I NEEDED the results. That I would talk to ANY doctor who would call me back and let me know the results. A short while later, doctor number two, another young female, gave me the call. She told me that my white count was still high and that I should see a hematologist. She gave me the number of a medical school buddy that was in the business, and wished me well.
Hematology-Oncology. I called the hematologist’s office, and the receptionist said, “Hematology-Oncology.” I freaked out. Cancer? The doctor hadn’t said a word about cancer. I had to make an appointment at the local Cancer Center? No way! It couldn’t be true. Someone had obviously made a mistake. Oh my God. It couldn’t be true!
See me now! I swallowed hard and got my voice and absolutely begged the receptionist to squeeze me in THAT DAY. I couldn’t possibly wait another minute to find out WHAT THE HELL I HAD. Fortunately for me, the doctor’s practice was young yet, and they were able to squeeze me in at 4:00 pm. Just a few hours to wait.
Cancer Center. The drive to the doctor’s office was no picnic, especially when the big”Cancer Center” letters came into view. My husband left work to join me, as I was in such a panic. We sat in the waiting room, a large airport-like arena, with just about as much personality, before we were called in.
Another visit. Another doctor feeling my neck, my armpits, squishy belly, my groin. And then the first and only visit to his office, where we could sit in chairs, across the desk, like equals. “Good news,” I swear he used those words. Maybe he did his undergraduate work in marketing? Good news! “You have chronic lymphocytic leukemia.” I was looking out the window of his office, seeing the rooftop of an adjacent part of the building, imagining eating on that roof, sitting at an umbrella table, laughing and talking, without a care in the world, wishing I could just go out there right then and leave this ridiculous appointment.
“Don’t worry, it’s like having diabetes.” He said this too. I’ve since discovered that having diabetes is a horrible thing that affects just about every other part of your health and your life. But at the time, it was oddly comforting. People with diabetes didn’t die. At least not right away.
To tell or not to tell. I went home. My husband went back to work. I called my best friend, who wasn’t at home. I talked to her husband. I remember it now through the haze of numbness. I remember telling him that I had CLL leukemia, and I remember feeling his response more than hearing it. He was sorry, just like everyone was sorry about an Uncle Abe I’d never met, who’d died of leukemia before I was born. I was a dead woman. I decided right there and then that I wasn’t going to tell anyone outside my immediate family unless I had to. Until it was obvious.
Still undercover. It’ s been a lot of years now since that day (July 2001), and I’m still undercover about the leukemia thing. I haven’t had any conventional therapy,” but I’ve been trying to move mountains with all the alternative and nutritional changes I could make. As one man I spoke to recently said, “You’ve been skating uphill for nine years.” (I’m editing today; it’s been fourteen years.) I kind of like that. It makes me feel much more athletic than I really am. And despite the fact that I still have this leukemia thing – despite all my efforts — it made me feel more successful at it than I’ve felt in a while.
And now this site… At the urging of my husband/mentor/coach/favorite nag, I’ve decided to create this website to put out all the information I’ve discovered — all in one place. For those of us with CLL leukemia, our second greatest enemy is fear. The more you know, the less you fear. Here’s to knowledge and a long future ahead for all of us!
Hi Denise,
Can you let me know your FISH panel results? What about your IGHV status? Is it mutated or unmutated?
Hi Denise:
I have a couple of concerns. 1) What about bruising of the skin that can appear on one’s skin. I remember when I was in high school, my mother was diagnosed with CLL (late 1960’s). She started to have bruise marks on her body but I can’t recall if it was at the later stages of CLL or earlier. Do you know what it means and what one can do to alleviate it? I had a bruise on my inner thigh but it disappeared after a few days. Now it appears that I have one on the back of my neck. Secondly, I agree that a good night’s rest is very important. However, I have recently been dealing with sciatica. Unfortunately, it worsens at night and interferes with my ability to go to sleep. Consequently, I’ve had to take an Ibuprofen (800 mg.) to lessen the pain so I can get some rest. I’m also doing the recommended stretches of the affected muscles which helps also. I don’t want to continue taking the Ibuprofen but the pain wins out. I know chronic inflammation is the “enemy.” I take Bosmeric twice per day which has the curcumin. Any suggestions?
Denise,
I posted this on another persons site Eric and also sent you a email. I thought I would post it on here also. I am so desperate to connect with people that want to take care of their immune system naturally while on “wait and watch”. The mental part of this journey is just as stressful as the diagnosis.
Short version:
I was diagnosed with CLL two years ago and I am in stage 0, but with the WBC going up every six months at my Dr. follow up visits.
I was wondering if anyone knows of any Cancer Hospitals either in PA or New York or New Jersey or Baltimore, that would be open to treating you with other medication other then chemo and also treating you with supplements and exercise etc. if you are told that you have to start treatment because of your numbers or markers?
Right now I am trying to be aggressive with my own ideas of being smart as to being around people with colds or flu and being in crowded places, washing my hands all the time and using hand sanitizers when in stores etc. I am also taking Vitamin D3 but only at 1,000 IU a day and Vitamin C at 1,000 mg. a day. The drs. do not seem to think that the vitamins work well. They just want to sit around and “waitâ€. I find this so depressing and scary that a dr. would not try to teach you how to take care of your immune system while on “wait and watchâ€.
Any suggestions from anyone would help me mentally. I find this is a everyday battle with myself to pretend I am happy so as not to upset my family around me.
Martha Hurlock
Just hit my 12th anniversary as untreated. Will be following your blog. Thanks!
Hi,
I am 48 years old and was recently diagnosed with stage 0 CLL.
I can not stop thinking and worrying about it. It is constantly on my mind. I’m not sure what to do about it. I feel as though I will never be truly happy again. Will this feeling eventually go away?
Hi Denise,
I’m a very young CLL-er. Recently diagnosed. Would you be so kind as to chat with me over the phone? I’m 32, two babies at home, and frankly need a bit of coaching with a few of your ideas. If you would be open– please email me at ssmith721@yahoo.com and I can give you my phone number :). Love your blog!
Hi, I was diagnosed with cll just over a year ago. I would like to know about how much green tea, red wine, or whatever you have been doing that may be keeping you from treatment. Also curious as to you wbc counts. My high was the first of this month at 173, but a couple weeks later it went down to 149. I am scheduled for monthly blood tests and Dr. Says treatment is coming. I would love to not have that happen if there is something I could do diet wise that may help. Anxious to hear some tips from you. Thank you so much!
Hi Denise
I read your blog, I have been diagnosed last Tuesday with CLL, after reading your story it was the same for me almost to the letter, looking out the window as well, I felt exactly the same as you.
I am trying to absorb as much information as possible so I understand, I want to do everything that will help my body and like you hope I can beat it.
I did ask why isn’t stem cell offered straight away as a cure for CLL as I can’t see why watch and wait is logical. I don’t think I have symptoms but probably do, I’m just not sure as I feel reasonably well.
I had a bad elbow for weeks which still is painful, I have a sore prickly heat occasionally but that is really all, I may be a bit lethargic at work but my mind is in this all day every day, I’m not sure if I am looking at anything thinking is that CLL or could my elbow pain be normal pain.
I am very interested how I came to get CLL! I’m a builder in the uk, I was told that handling treated timber etc paint, glues, diesel fumes, petrol etc probably brought it on. So many people are getting this illness there must be information that governments aren’t telling, a bit like smoking and asbestos was covered up in the 1950s-60s, probably so corporations don’t have to pay compensation.
Enough for now, I will follow your blog regularly.
Regards
John
Hi John!
I find it very interesting that you had a painful elbow for weeks before diagnosis because this was my experience too, and yet I didn’t think it had anything to do with the CLL.
Hi Denise – Just found your side and read your story. I like your attitude and contributions to our understand of this condition and things that help. The two support groups I found online were completely dedicated to discussing late stage treatments – chemo – and general expression of good cheer to get through it. There does not seem to be a place to discuss anything that a person can do for himself. All the best. Eric
Hi, I was diagnosed in May of this year….shocking news. I have no symptoms. Stage 0. I’m gathering as much info as I can. Sometimes it’s better to not have known. It’s always on my mind…. That is the worst at the moment. So comforting to have this website. Thank you for this. I am meeting with a naturalpathic oncologist Oct 8th and would be happy to share info
To our health
Teresa
Hi Teresa – I have a simple situation and just want to learn what I can do. The medical people have nothing to offer until later stages. Perhaps we can use email to share more details about practical things.
Eric
Hi Denise,
Wondering how you are doing as of late. Are you still taking LDN?
Hope all is well and you are stable.
Brenda
1 | Leroy M
January 6, 2022 at 7:16 pm
Hello, Denise.
I have recently joined the “wonderful world of CLL”. My initial online research led me to your very informative site.
I’m a 68 yo male, married to a supportive woman, live on a country acreage in Saskatchewan for 48 years. I have good access to oncologists, but still wish to help myself with lifestyle and diet changes.
That leads me to a question about burnt food … you have emphasized the importance of avoiding, but I can’t find where you explain the reasoning behind it.
You are apparently successful in keeping this monster at bay … best wishes!
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Leroy M
January 6, 2022 at 7:41 pm
Sorry, I goofed: I am 78, not 68! I also should have dated my post as being diagnosed in October 2021. Had brain surgery Oct 28, 2021 to remove a tumour that proved to be melanoma.
Denise
January 7, 2022 at 11:40 am
Hi Leroy,
I’m sorry about your initiation to the CLL club. And melanoma as well! (as per a separate comment) You have a lot going on. I think it’s wonderful that you’re researching alternatives to watching and waiting and seeing what modern medicine has to offer. Please keep in mind that just about everything on this site goes just fine with conventional medicine. In fact one of my earliest friends on this site went through rounds of conventional treatment and is now doing well by keeping her health well and together via natural self-help means.
To answer your questions about information/research to back up my stressing of cooking “low and slow” (think stews and soups vs. grilling or broiling), there are two sources that come to mind. One is Nasha Winter’s book, The Metabolic Approach to Cancer. Slow and low cooking (low temp for a longer simmer) is somewhere in that book. I highly recommend the book. While it is technical and perhaps overwhelming, it is loaded with great ideas. I read it just a few years ago when I was already pretty confident about being able to maintain my health. I found I was doing about 90% of what she recommends! That said, keep in mind this is “chronic” lymphocytic leukemia, meaning it also is “slow.” So you can read it and try one new thing at a time. No rush. (But no junk food either:)
The second source for this information is a Life Extension article from many years ago. The facts are still valid.
While this ‘low and slow” thing might sound onerous, it’s actually easy and absolutely delicious. Each week my husband makes chicken soup from organic, pastured chickens. He also makes (generally) a pot of grass-fed beef stew. We eat this and variations of it most nights, adding seasonings, sauces, etc. I also slow-fry (on simmer only) cod or salmon about once a week. No need for oil; just leave it in the pan with olive oil atop the fish along with desired seasonings. The liquid from the fish fills the pan eventually and has to be drained. The fish is moist and delicious. It takes a while to get used to cooking differently and shopping differently, but the food is great. You won’t be disappointed.
Feel free to let me know how it goes, and how you are doing as well.
Thanks again for writing! – Denise